March 30, 2005

Firing Squad

Remember the Reagan Revolution? Has the Republican Party now moved into an era of orthodoxy, a Party Line from which dissent is not allowed? When I questioned the anti-federalist implications of Congress' intervention in the Schiavo case, Jim Geraghty replied that voters were too few to worry about. Patterico told me to "stop whining." Allah, whose thoughtful comments I value, also admonished me that the Democrats are far worse. Wow!

My responses:
To Jim: In 2004 Bush won by three percent of the total; if just seven percent of Bush voters rebel, it's a problem.
To Patterico: I have not yet begun to "whine."
To Allah: Not by as much as I had thought.

Will The Party send to the firing squad those who do not follow the Party Line on Schiavo, on Creationism, on fiscal issues, etc?

Before I get to the firing squad, I'll mention Randall Terry and Paul at Oozbang. It's a two-party system and I can't agree with everyone in my party. But anti-abortion inciters and babblers of Creationist nonsense get on my nerves. Those two will be DOING the shooting, I'm sure.

So what bloggers are now being lined up to be shot by the firing squad?

John Cole
Bill Quick
Jon Henke - The Neolibertarian
Bill at INDC
Unabrewer
Glenn Reynolds
Charles Johnson
Donald Sensing
Dan Riehl
Jeff Goldstein
Beautiful Atrocities
Kathy Kinsley
Allah - whether HE likes it or not
Pixy Misa, Ambient Irony - Australian cell
Michael Totten
Eric Deamer
Michelle Catalano
j.d., evolution
Tman

Crap. that might be seven percent right there! They better "stop whining."

Counter-revolutionary candidates for the firing squad, those who have expressed 'counter-revolutionary' views on the Schiavo case, Creationism, abortion, the death penalty, fiscal issues, etc., please let me know, and I'll add you to the list.

UPDATE: Time to impeach Judge Birch


Posted by Commissar at March 30, 2005 05:00 PM
Confessions

Well, it's "Pixy Misa" if you don't want to confuse people, because more people know me by that name these days than my real one.

No problem, it's no big secret. All my emails have my real name on them.

Oh, and I am not now, and never have been, a Republican. Because (a) I'm a centrist, and (b) I'm Australian. I'll stand right by you, though - at least up to the point of real bullets, and then I'll be running like hell.

Extracted from: Pixy Misa at March 30, 2005 05:06 PM

Count me in with Ronnie and Barry. As TJ said 200 years ago - "The government that is the smallest is the best." or as Ronnies said over and over when he was winning 49 states "Get the govt of the backs of the workers!"

I have not run from real bullets in the past and will not now.

an old exJarhead

Extracted from: Rod Stanton at March 30, 2005 05:28 PM

As I said before in a previous comment, perhaps not as eloquently as I would have liked although some in the center may lean left, where you lean right, we do not use firing squads on those who disagee on an issues, because we are willing to acknowledge that we do not have the sole hotline into God, and we may actually be WRONG on some issues.

That is why I do not belong on your list, I never agreeed with the extremists, on the right OR on the left, nor will I order a firing squad on anyone now.

I'm open to discussion, and I for one am glad that you have ALWAYS been equally open, even before the nutjobs on the right started asking the firing squads to target practice before being sicced on the "heretics".

Extracted from: Jack at March 30, 2005 06:10 PM

oeJ:
"the government of the backs"; would that be the opposite of an up-front government?

Commissar;
Funny how 1st A. howlers also demand othodoxy, and what they are willing to squash to enforce it! Perhaps you've made the error of putting integrity above group-think. Be careful, or the machinations of "Dynamic Conservatism" will extrude and expel you like the neo-commie invasive maggot you are!!

Extracted from: Brian H at March 30, 2005 06:39 PM

I see this overall issue as one of the challenges for conservatives if they want to really become a serious long term majority player in government. A majority party almost has to be somewhat inclusive by definition to be anything more than a quick shift in National mood in one direction or another. And that doesn't mean that we want to toss some core values out the window, either. It ain't an easy equation. We'll see how we do. Excellent post and point, comrade!

Extracted from: Dan at March 30, 2005 06:51 PM

Me? What'd I do? I, for one, welcome our clinic-bombing overlords.

For the record, I was by no means suggesting in the earlier thread that "the Democrats are worse" is an answer to every right-wing grievance against the GOP. I do think it's an answer to your federalism objection, for reasons I explained there. But if the Democrats can pull themselves together on the war and neutralize the hard-left faction within, they're a perfectly viable option. If they can't, and shitheels like Kos continue to gain influence, then they're not. For me it's that simple.

Now, how exactly is this firing squad going to work, Steve? Goldstein (as I read him) and I are both in the "save Terri" camp but we oppose Congressional intervention. As do 68% of Republicans. Do Jeff and I get a reprieve because we want her to live or is the firing offense here our support for federalism? If the latter, how are Randall Terry and co. planning to overwhelm 68% of us? Or is the whole "firing squad" metaphor, with its hints of creeping fascism and rigid orthodoxy, simply an attempt to portray oneself as some sort of martyr? It's understandable, perhaps, after having dealt with creationist idiots all week, but just because it's understandable doesn't mean it's fair.

In case any members of the firing squad are reading, I have but one request before I'm purged: let me die with dignity, far away from the oh-so-precious "remorseful Bush voters" and further away still from John Cole, lest the last thing I hear as I close my eyes is him calling me a "sick bastard" for daring to disagree with a court's findings of fact. Better yet, rather than shoot me, why not just starve me to death? From what I hear it's a really sweet fucking way to go.

Extracted from: Allah at March 30, 2005 07:20 PM

So who is supposed to control the Judiciary? If you don't like Article 3 section 1 how would you do it? I think a black robed theocracy is as bad as any othe theocracy.

If the elected representatives cannot control the Judicary then who? I await your diktat

Extracted from: tdbill at March 30, 2005 07:21 PM

Please include me on that list Commissar, I am sick and tired of being told I'm a jesus freak republican by my democrat friends and equally sick and tired of being called a liberal hippy by my republican friends.

And to further what Allah said, you didn't look hard enough Commissar. Both sides have plenty of Randall Terry's and Oozbangers to go around.

Extracted from: Tman at March 30, 2005 07:22 PM

Allah, classy and subtle as usual. Shouldn't you be out calling people scumbags for hanging out with "MSM" operatives once over coffee or something? I heard you once read a back issue of Time magazine because you were bored at the dentist's office, so were none of us completely free of the foul taint of the MSM just remember.

But anyway, why can't we have more of your subtle wit on your own blog? Did you run out of new creative ways of saying how libruls make the baby Jesus cry?

Extracted from: Eric Deamer at March 30, 2005 07:38 PM

They're going to come for the Jews first, I just know it.

Extracted from: Eric J at March 30, 2005 07:52 PM

Allah,

"is the firing offense here our support for federalism?" - yes. and all-around reasonability.

"fair" - Blogging is supposed to be "fair???"

"firing squad/martyrdom?" - Ouch! Not fair on your part, but I can't complain of that, now can I? Actually, just sort of a vestige of the schtick. Someone told me to use "Lysenkoism" in my posts, but that's too obscure. As for the "creeping fascism" overtones, none intended.

Extracted from: The Commissar at March 30, 2005 08:00 PM

I volunteer to be first against the wall.

Extracted from: michele at March 30, 2005 08:10 PM

Steve -- Gotcha. And I'm sorry for having missed the shtick overtones of the firing squad. (Me, of all people.) Objection withdrawn. I take your point about "reasonability," too, although I think there's a temptation to define that in terms of whatever positions one happens to agree with. (Except of course for creationism, which is inherently unreasonable.)

Eric -- Always a pleasure. It's nice for once to see you being set off by something other than a swipe at Sullivan.

I'm not sure why you're imputing some cartoonish anti-MSM viewpoint to me since there's nothing to that effect in my comment and I've never been more strident on my blog about it than are Glenn, Charles Johnson, Bill at INDC, Steve, or a thousand other right-of-center bloggers. But if it makes you feel better to torch the strawman, by all means.

As for your last point, what can I say? I brook no dissent from the religious conservative party line. That's why my blogroll includes Steve, Goldstein, LGF, A Small Victory, Roger Simon, Kathy Kinsley, etc.

Will it help heal the rift here if I say what a brilliantly independent thinker Sully is? No party can hold him, you know. His spirit is too big.

Extracted from: Allah at March 30, 2005 08:20 PM

Count me in with those who are about to die.

Extracted from: j.d. at March 30, 2005 09:26 PM

Again, Commissar, please add me to the list. I would be honored.

Extracted from: Tman at March 30, 2005 09:59 PM

Now if only all of us folks on this list could get a viable third party working.........sigh......

Extracted from: Tman at March 30, 2005 10:40 PM

It's the same grief I got back when I said I wouldn't vote for Bush because of his support for various gun control measures, big government, spending, ad infinitum. I was criticized by some other right leaning folks for it.

Threw away my vote on at third party and didn't regret it. I think the Republicans need to get fired for four years or so to get their collective shit together.

Apologies for the profanity.

Extracted from: SayUncle at March 30, 2005 10:43 PM

SayUncle, while I understand your sentiment, you have to remember who would be replacing the Republicans for those four years.

Dammit, if the Democrats weren't so pathetic, the Republicans would be forced to get their shit together. As it is, they can pretty much coast and still get re-elected.

Well, I'm an Aussie, and at least we don't have a budget deficit (been running huge surpluses for years). Of course, that's because our taxes are too high... Oh, and if you think you have gun control problems, you don't want to live here. Damn, again.

Extracted from: Pixy Misa at March 31, 2005 12:59 AM

Hey, what about me? I'm being told there's no place in the "big tent" for god-hating, baby-smothering Nazis like myself (well, that's how I've been painted so far anyway).

Apparently being a Republican with a reasoned basis for holding a belief other than "'cause the Bible tells me so" is a no-no.

Not that I'm a Republican, but I did vote that way.

Extracted from: andy at March 31, 2005 02:25 PM

TYPO Ronnie said - Get the Govt *OFF* the back of workers - not of

Extracted from: Rod Stanton at March 31, 2005 04:36 PM