The Al Sharton of White People

wins West Virginia.

Oh, how the mighty have falllen.

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  1. Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator on 14 May 2008 at 2:24 am

    Clinton Beats Obama in West Virginia…

    State has long been considered a reliable state for the Clinton campaign.

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  1. John the Marine wrote:

    Well I’m no fan of Obama but if for nothing else he deserves a warm spot in my heart for dragging Hillary down.

    And as I’ve said before,”The enemy of my enemy is my friend”. However, once the primary is over and the stake has been driven through Countess Hillary’s political heart then it will be time to expose Obama for Leftist cupcake that he is. But for now we’re all smiles.

  2. Stephen wrote:

    Scene: 2048, little kid and grandfather.

    Little kid: Hey, grandpa, we’re studying in History class about Barack Obama, the country’s first black president. You were around back then. Did you vote for him, or campaign for him, or hear him speak, or anything?

    Grandpa: Well, um … er .. well.. actually I was busy denouncing him as a Leftist Cupcake, but why don’t you run along and stop annoying people?

  3. Grim wrote:

    The part that will be interesting to me is trying to explain to the grandson how the country’s first black president got elected without capturing any swing states. Ohio prefers Clinton to McCain to Obama; West Virginia, the same. Florida? Arkansas?

    Or, to put it another way, John’s right — the reason Obama does so badly in these places is that he really doesn’t have the first idea who these people are in these swing states, or what they want. It’s not that he seems like an out of touch “cupcake” — it’s that he is an out of touch intellectual.

    Which isn’t the end of the world: He runs well with blacks partially out of identification, but also partially because he’s spent a number of years learning about that constituency and its wants. Once again, his lack of actual experience is what is biting him: Clinton isn’t a salt-of-the-earth type herself, but she’s put in the time to understand the issues of a class that is no more hers than it is his. Obama hasn’t had the time.

    Once, I would have been ready to hear, “But he has advisors, so…” At this point, however, he’s proven that he doesn’t value or listen to his advisors. Samantha Power? She’s as sharp as they come, whether I agree with her or not. This guy from the ICG this week, the one who met with Hamas? A guy who wants to meet with Iran without preconditions isn’t willing to explain why he might listen to people with diplomatic experience as re: Islamic radicals?

    “Cupcake” isn’t a word I’d normally use, but I have been negatively impressed with the way Obama treats supporters who aren’t valuable just at the moment. Like the Washington Post piece about how his people literally push black supporters to the back of the crowd, so they won’t show up on camera.

    These guys are turning out to support him 90%+, and this is how he treats them? “Sorry, but you people are a bit of an embarrassment to us — so many of you and all. Got to put on a good show for the Clintons, you understand. Terribly sorry. Step to the rear; there’s a good fellow.”

    That’s how he supports his friends, and the folks who fight for him? No thanks. The Bush administration has often erred by putting personal loyalty at the top of their value chain, to a degree that crosses well into cronyism in many cases. But Obama appears to have no loyalty at all: not to old friends, not to current allies, not to anything that might get in the way.

  4. Grim wrote:

    Or, you know, this story:

    While the crowd was indeed diverse, some students at the event questioned the practices of Mrs. Obama’s event coordinators, who handpicked the crowd sitting behind Mrs. Obama. The Tartan’s correspondents observed one event coordinator say to another, “Get me more white people, we need more white people.” To an Asian girl sitting in the back row, one coordinator said, “We’re moving you, sorry. It’s going to look so pretty, though.”

    “I didn’t know they would say, ‘We need a white person here,’ ” said attendee and senior psychology major Shayna Watson, who sat in the crowd behind Mrs. Obama. “I understood they would want a show of diversity, but to pick up people and to reseat them, I didn’t know it would be so outright.”

    Change you can believe in, young voters!

  5. canuckistani wrote:

    Since Jesus hasn’t returned to run for President, you run the candidates you have, flaws and all. And you pick the best one you can get.
    It doesn’t bug me at all that Obama is a so-called “intellectual”. I’m the sort of person who would rather have a smart person for a president. You don’t need to eat squirrels to understand that high gas prices hurt the poor, and you don’t have to bowl 200 to understand that many people can’t afford the health care they need, and you don’t need to down a shot of Crown Royal (gack!) to know that Iraq is a tremendous drain on the US economy. Haven’t you people had enough of presidents that you’d feel comfortable having a beer with?

  6. Grim wrote:

    I am very interested in the opinions of a Canadian on our electoral process. That said, however, the point is not that Obama isn’t smart — it is that he doesn’t understand the people’s issues. His statement that they ‘cling’ to religion out of bitterness about economic issues is a clear demonstration of that: it’s the sort of thing only an educated but inexperienced person could believe.

    Clinton is just as intellectual — remember her background. But she’s had the experience to learn which part is theory, and which part works in practice, and how to listen to people without just taking what they say and putting it in your preferred box (”Now he’s telling me he clings to his God out of fear that the Social Security trust fund won’t be there when he is old”).

    That was painful experience for Clinton — I was in Gainesville, GA, when one of her operatives came down to explain her gracious, beneficient health care plan, and how it was going to solve all our problems “And it won’t cost you anything!”

    After they got laughed off the stage and out of the room, we went to the gun show across the street. Not out of fear, though — just because it was a pleasant way to pass the afternoon. (In fact, my physics teacher was there, buying a new blow gun to replace one he’d worn out through use in his class: the demonstration of involved water balloons swinging from the ceiling, until he burst them with a dart from the blowgun. Students were invited to sit where they thought they wouldn’t get wet. As an introduction into principles of motion and gravity, it was unsurpassed.)

    Well, that was 1993. She’s had fifteen years experience to learn from, and you can see that it’s profited her. She’s not just wiser, but better than she was in Bill Clinton’s first term. I don’t doubt that Obama will be a better candidate in 15 years, too. He’s just trying to jump ahead too fast.

  7. John the Marine wrote:

    You don’t need to eat squirrels to understand that high gas prices hurt the poor, and you don’t have to bowl 200 to understand that many people can’t afford the health care they need, and you don’t need to down a shot of Crown Royal (gack!) to know that Iraq is a tremendous drain on the US economy.

    The above represents the condescending manner that won’t play well with many folks. Aside from eating squirrels (no thankyou) you don’t have to be an intellectual to understand that Socialism and the failed solutions of 70’s aren’t going to fix the problems we face in America either.

    I used the term “cupcake” for a reason. Once the Dems select their standard bearer of victimhood, defeatism, socialism and hand outs the real contest will be engaged. Even with the media in his corner it will be hard to brush his Leftism under the rug. It will be hard to argue that a wimpy lets give Iran a hug or “look Hamas likes me” is going make America safer. Moving right along it will be hard to explain how huge new entitlements are going to reduce government spending. Also, lets not forget that his Liberal record in Ill and Congress is going rear its ugly head. As Ricky used to say, “… you have some splaining to do”.

    Little kid: Hey, grandpa, we’re studying in History class about Barack Obama, the country’s first black president. You were around back then. Did you vote for him, or campaign for him, or hear him speak, or anything?

    Well my answer might sound more like this…
    Grandpa JTM: Grandson, I sure was around back then and no I didn’t support him. Since Obama proved to be one of the worst Presidents we ever had in my many years as voter I used my judgement to see that there was no substance to him. Remember, we don’t support a person because of they’re skin color, their party or because it is simply popular. You support a leader or cause because you feel it is the right thing to do. Pres. Obama and his miguided policies darn near recked this great country and I’m proud that I stood up for what was right, not what was popular. Now lets go fishing…

  8. Grim wrote:

    Aside from eating squirrels (no thankyou)

    Hey, now. Squirrel is a major part of my famous PETA Pie recipe (along with venison sausage, wild turkey — the bird not the drink — and lots of butter).

    I’m sure you’d like it.

  9. Grim wrote:

    Of course, as regards Hillary, there are other views.

  10. Alon Levy wrote:

    Stephen, I have to agree with John here. I don’t think Obama will be a bad President, but I don’t think history will look at him as a first black President who made history. After all, nowadays Britons don’t look at Thatcher as the first female Prime Minister; they look at her as a radical conservative Prime Minister, for better or for worse. I think Obama will be remembered mostly for his withdrawal from Iraq and its consequences, and hopefully his universal health care plan, rather than his race.

  11. John the Marine wrote:

    Hey, now. Squirrel is a major part of my famous PETA Pie recipe (along with venison sausage, wild turkey — the bird not the drink — and lots of butter).

    Grim, you know I have to admit that your PETA Pie sounds pretty tasty. Meat & butter sounds like the major food groups are covered.

    I think Obama will be remembered mostly for his withdrawal from Iraq and its consequences, and hopefully his universal health care plan, rather than his race.

    I think you are right about the above Alon, although, I obviously think you’re wrong about the consequences of these policies. However, what is more important is that we don’t vote race (or gender for that matter) but instead vote for ideas, ideals, values and or policy concepts. On this I think we agree.

    Stephen, I’ll bet even money that if Obama looses in November it will be blamed by the Liberal Left on race no matter what. (I’ve got to admit though that I think it will indeed be Pres. Obama elect in Nov 08. I just keep telling myself; it is better than Hillary, it is better than Hillary, it is better than Hillary,… Hey, small comfort is better than no comfort at all.)

  12. canuckistani wrote:

    PETA Pie

    Is that “People Eating Tasty Animals”?

    Anyway, the point I was getting at is if you have a smart president with smart policies, what does it matter if he doesn’t know first-hand what one sub-group of the American people live like? And if he/she understands the Appalachian steelworker, what about the Texan cattle farmer or the Colorado ski instructor? I’m speaking first hand here - the best Prime Minister of my lifetime was an unashamed elitist and a brilliant man who would never stoop to pander for votes by pretending he was a good old shootin’ and drinkin’ boy. And let’s face it - Bush I - a President I respect more than any other Republican since Eisenhower - was no populist either.

  13. Grim wrote:

    Meryl Yourish invented “Eat an animal for PETA Day” to protest their use of the Holocaust for their vegan movement. I was happy to join it, because I like eating animals anyway. But I see that I misremembered the recipe: it actually uses bacon grease, not butter.

    Here it is.

    The meat-and-butter recipe I was thinking of was this sandwich. I defy any of you to read that through and not go right home and make one as soon as you possibly can.

  14. John the Marine wrote:

    Anyway, the point I was getting at is if you have a smart president with smart policies,

    I think you are only half right, Obama is a smart guy but he has dumb policies.

    In politics one needs to know how to relate to the voters. You can be an “elitist” and not know every sub-group of the population and still convince the electorate you’re their guy. However, if you step in it too many times or make a horrendous gaff your opposition will expoit the circumstances and sink your boat. Look at Hillary, she gaffed her way right out of the Democratic nomination (and she was supposedly a sure thing) because Obama picked up on her mistakes. The Democratic party isn’t all of America and you better beleive that the GOP is going to paint Obama as a codescending elitist two faced wimp (because between Rev. Wright, San Fransisco remarks, his wife’s big mouth and other mistakes his campaign has given his opponent plenty of grist for the mill to work with). That is the way it is done in the dog pit world of politics.

  15. Alon Levy wrote:

    Canuck, out of curiosity, who would you say is the best Prime Minister of your lifetime - Chrétien?

    John, I might take your bet based on what we agree to define as the Liberal Left. Does it mean liberal pundits in the mainstream media? Does it mean Daily Kos? Does it mean the notices the DNC sends to its supporters? I think the pundits won’t mention race unless McCain runs a campaign as racist as Clinton’s, but Daily Kos and the DNC will mention race no matter what.

  16. canuckistani wrote:

    If Clinton wants to show herself as a real tough member of the working people, she should take a page from Chrétien’s book and get into fistfights with protesters. Chrétien may have been the most cunning political mind I’ve seen in operation, but he was never an elitist.
    No, I was actually thinking of one of the most brilliant and divisive minds in Canadian politics - our own Philosopher King, Pierre Trudeau.

  17. canuckistani wrote:

    Hey, does this remind anyone of anybody in the news nowadays?

    Trudeau was persuaded to run for the Liberal leadership. His energetic campaign attracted the attention of the news media and mobilized and inspired many youths, who saw Trudeau as a symbol of generational change. Going into the leadership convention, Trudeau was the front-runner, and was clearly the favourite candidate with the Canadian public. Many within the Liberal Party still had deep doubts about him, though. Having joined the party only in 1965, he was still considered an outsider. Many saw him as too radical and outspoken a figure. Some of his views, particularly those on divorce, abortion, and homosexuality, were opposed by the substantial conservative wing of the party. Nevertheless, at the April 1968 Liberal leadership convention, Trudeau was elected leader of the party on the fourth ballot, with the support of 51% of the delegates, defeating some prominent, long-serving Liberals including Paul Martin Sr., Robert Winters and Paul Hellyer. Trudeau was sworn in as Liberal leader and Prime Minister two weeks later on 20 April.

    It worked out pretty good for us.

  18. John the Marine wrote:

    Alon, I don’t think McCain will run a racist campaign like Hillary’s. Although I don’t support McCain in the true sense, for me he is simply the least Left out of the current three, I do give him credit for having some common sense. Unlike Hillary he came back from way behind, H-beast went from being way ahead to being approximately 150 delegates short of a happy meal. I think the Obama supporters I’m talking about are media types like Chris Mathews, pretty much all of MSNBC & NBC for that matter, the Daily Kos, Moveon and the like and most certaily the DNC. After all victomhood is the cornerstone of the Democratic Parties message. If Obama looses it won’t be on the merits in their minds but simply that those who don’t agree must be racist. How else could it be that they (including me) don’t see the light?