Hillary’s Desperation, Round 57

Pennsylvania crowd jeers Clinton attacks on Obama

On Monday, with the Pennsylvania primary just days away, Hillary Clinton continued to hammer Barack Obama over his comments that small town Americans “cling to guns or religion” because they are “bitter.”

But the audience at a forum put on by the Alliance for American Manufacturing didn’t appreciate her line of attack.

“I understand my opponent came this morning and spent a lot of his time attacking me,” she said at the beginning of her remarks here.

Many in the crowd responded with audible groans, and a few shouted, “No!”

Obama spoke to the same forum earlier in the morning and ribbed Clinton for doing a shot of whiskey in front of TV cameras on Saturday in Indiana.

Clinton continued, “I know that many of you, like me, were disappointed by the recent remarks he made.”

This time, a louder, sustained chorus of “No!” emanated from the audience. Clinton soldiered on.

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Comments

  1. The Unabrewer wrote:

    Since you’ve shown evidence in the past that you read Hot Air, I’m assuming you’ve seen their posts showing Obama slipping in the polls in Pennsylvania and Indiana. This particular self-selected crowd might have had some vocal Obama supporters, but overall it seems that his comments have hurt him in Pennsylvania.

    Posted 14 Apr 2008 at 9:43 pm

  2. Dan Kauffman wrote:

    Obama slipping in the polls in Pennsylvania

    I am not certain going from a dead tie to a 20 point difference could be called a “slip”

    More of a catastrophic plummet

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 7:46 am

  3. Alon Levy wrote:

    Do you have links? On RealClearPolitics, he seems to be consistently polling within seven to ten points of Clinton.

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 9:08 am

  4. David C. wrote:

    So what’s your prediction for how bad Obama is going to lose in PA?

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 9:08 am

  5. Alon Levy wrote:

    I predict ten points.

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 10:28 am

  6. Alon Levy wrote:

    (This is deliberately lowballed; the polls average seven, but I’m guessing Pennsylvania has enough racists for the polls to fib a bit.)

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 10:29 am

  7. canuckistani wrote:

    (This is deliberately lowballed; the polls average seven, but I’m guessing Pennsylvania has enough racists for the polls to fib a bit.)

    How condescending of you. You must be some kind of big city elitist. :-)

    I’ll say 9, on the grounds that I think people really are bitter about their jobs going overseas and aren’t nearly as put out by Obama’s comments as the CNN commentators are.

    But then, I’m a condescending elitist too.

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 10:39 am

  8. Stephen wrote:

    RCP’s average of polls shows Clinton ahead by 7-8 pts. The 20-pointer was from ARG, whose record is so spotty overall, that RCP doesn’t even include them.

    Alon, if anything, this year, there has been a reverse Bradley effect, as African-Americans poll for Obama 75-25 (for example), but then vote for him > 90%.

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 10:50 am

  9. David C. wrote:

    Alon,

    It’s the latest ARG poll They had the PA race even on April 5. But the April11-13 poll has Hillary opening a 20 point lead.

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 11:13 am

  10. David C. wrote:

    I’m going with a 12 point Clinton win. Obama’s stupid comments help give Clinton continued life and hope (however faint).

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 11:20 am

  11. Davebo wrote:

    It’s the latest ARG poll They had the PA race even on April 5. But the April11-13 poll has Hillary opening a 20 point lead.

    Which would seem to indicate that the latest isn’t just an outlier among other polls, but among ARG polls themselves.

    7 point Hillary win is my guess, but it’s purely a guess.

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 12:00 pm

  12. Alon Levy wrote:

    Oh, I’d be thrilled for Obama to win Pennsylvania. This will destroy whatever’s left of Clinton’s candidacy. I still support Clinton on policy, but damn it, can this damned primary please end already?

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 2:02 pm

  13. Alon Levy wrote:

    Canuck, if you think I’m harsh when talking about race relations in rural Pennsylvania, wait till you hear me talk about race relations in New York City.

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 2:07 pm

  14. John the Marine wrote:

    If Obama looses PA by 10 points + or - 2 points he is no worse off than before. His comments in San Fran were indeed politically stupid though. If I were running H-beast’s or McCain’s campaign I would use them.

    Also, being a guy who owns guns, goes to church and lives in rural NH (recently moved from a small town in PA) I’m surprised to know that I’m so bitter and curious as to how it makes me racist? Hell, I felt pretty good when I woke up this morning I didn’t even know I was so angry or that I hated minorities or was clinging to my faith because of my frustration. Perhaps the truth of the matter is Obama was speaking to a leftwing elitist crowd (hello Frisco!) and had tailored his remarks to please that particular demographic. After all politicians have many faces and wear the one that suits the moment. It’s not like Obama claimed he was being shot at or something really ridiculous. Even in the mist of my resentment I give Barrack a pass for committing a garden variety political misstep.

    I still support Clinton on policy, but damn it, can this damned primary please end already?

    Oh, just a little longer Alon. I’m enjoying the show. My personel dream is for an extremely messy fight where in the end H-beast looses (I want to see the surrender speech so badly. Whose fault will it be when she looses to a true dye in the wool Liberal? Perhaps another vast rightwing conspiracy?). With final result being a fractured Democratic party that snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Hey, a guy can dream if he wants to.

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 8:15 pm

  15. Alon Levy wrote:

    Oh, it doesn’t make you a racist at all. I invoked race because the Bradley effect is real, especially in redder areas, such as middle Pennsylvania. Obviously an individual isn’t a racist just because he owns guns, but the demographics in rural Pennsylvania aren’t that different from in those parts of Virginia that created the original Bradley effect.

    And again, that’s just one form of racism. In New York, I don’t think there was a Bradley effect with Dinkins. Instead, people just bash every mayor who listens to minorities occasionally, and shrug it off when NYPD shoots unarmed civilians. The local motto is “You guys are all racists. We’re not; our minorities really are lazy criminals.”

    Going back to Obama, so far I don’t see any blowback. In Gallup’s most recent tracking poll, which includes results taken entirely after that comment, his performance against both Clinton and McCain has changed by a statistically insignificant amount. Rasmussen’s tracking poll shows a small decline against Clinton, and no significant change against McCain.

    Posted 15 Apr 2008 at 11:38 pm

  16. canuckistani wrote:

    Hey, final results according to the NYTimes - HRC 54.7, BHO 45.3 - a margin of 9.4%.

    Further up this thread, you may notice that someone called it at 9%. Someone really smart. Why.. it was me!

    Do I get a prize?

    Posted 23 Apr 2008 at 10:38 am

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