Iraq War Hurting U.S. Terror Fight?

Spy Agencies Say Iraq War Hurting U.S. Terror Fight

The war in Iraq has become a primary recruitment vehicle for violent Islamic extremists, motivating a new generation of potential terrorists around the world whose numbers may be increasing faster than the United States and its allies can reduce the threat, U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded.

A 30-page National Intelligence Estimate completed in April cites the “centrality” of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, and the insurgency that has followed, as the leading inspiration for new Islamic extremist networks and cells that are united by little more than an anti-Western agenda. It concludes that, rather than contributing to eventual victory in the global counterterrorism struggle, the situation in Iraq has worsened the U.S. position, according to officials familiar with the classified document.

This NIE report, first reported in the NYTimes, has been widely covered in the blogosphere, especially by the Leftie blogs, less so by conservative blogs.

In these discussions, the first thing to understand is what is happening and how it’s happening.

Michael Ware of TIME magazine described it this way for Frontline back in February:

[Iraq] is a magnet for any young man, who, like in Afghanistan, like Osama bin Laden himself in the ’80s, you want to serve the cause, you pack up, and you go. It’s the same with the money. If you want to give money for the jihad, then you want it to go where it’s needed most and where it’s sexiest. … And Iraq is the hot place to be. It’s the hot place to give your money, and if you want to serve anywhere in jihad, then this is the place to come. This is where you can fight the infidel, the great Satan himself, face to face.

Now, when you go home from your tour of duty, and you sit around the mosque or the teahouse, and you can say, “I was there; I fought in Iraq,” that silences a room. And what we’re now seeing is not only the physical building of this generation, [but] through the boundless promise that the Internet has offered the jihad world, there’s a whole generation that’s been inspired. Look how much has now been done in the name of Iraq and in retribution: from the London bombings to Bali and estranged involvement here in Iraq.

It’s re-enlivened the entire organization and the cause and the idea. [For Abu Musab] al- Zarqawi and his immediate organization, [and] more broadly [for] Al Qaeda, they are the main beneficiaries of this war. The very thing George Bush says he came here to prevent, he is actually fostering and giving life to. It has to be the greatest irony of this whole experience.

And I see it; I’ve touched it. I’ve sat with these people … under a dictator like Saddam, where there was no Al Qaeda; there were no camps like there were in Afghanistan; there were no training programs; there were no cells and safe houses. I have been to Al Qaeda camps, Al Qaeda communities; I’ve seen them training. I am now in possession of their training video, so eerily reminiscent of what we saw coming out of Afghanistan: foot soldiers going through obstacle courses, men in masks learning how to search houses, fire missiles, handle weapons, bombs, assassinations, drive-by shootings. We’re now seeing that happening here in Iraq. That is only happening as a result of the U.S. invasion and ongoing prison [problems]. This is going to be the great legacy of the war in Iraq.

To their credit, conservative bloggers Rick Moran and James Joyner dealt with the NIE report in thoughtful posts.

My friend Rick Moran responds to the NIE report as follows, emphasizing the futility of trying to address the so-called root causes:

I am resisting the implications that some would draw from it; that if only we had not confronted the jihadists or worked to solve the root causes of terrorism, none of this would be true today.

I totally reject that notion. In fact, I believe it delusional thinking to say that we’d be any safer if we hadn’t invaded Iraq or if we had just lobbed a few cruise missiles at Osama Bin Laden following 9/11, or even if we had put enormous pressure on Israel to come to an agreement with the Palestinians. All of this ignores the one overarching truth about the nature of our enemies (and their tens of millions of supporters around the world); what they seek, we cannot give them.

Yes, absent the war in Iraq, the “root causes” would still be there, because we are wealthy, because we support Israel, etc.. And the Arab street would be perpetually enraged, erupting in paroxysms of fury at every Danish cartoon, at every Papal quote, at every Zionist military action. But that’s a very different thing from what the NIE and Michael Ware describe: actual trained jihadis, men who have fought United States troops in the field, a reinforcing cycle of recruits and veterans. It’s a crucial distinction that we really cannot dismiss with “oh, they are always protesting something or other.” Widespread, but amorphous feelings of al-Jazeera-fueled rage are very very different from rapidly multiplying trained cells of guys who actually have fought us, have acquired the skills of the terrorist trade, and have the know-how and organization to fight us.

Rick also asks what if we had not confronted Saddam? And points to the possibilities of a “re-invigorated Iraq” and Saddam’s ties to terrorists. I agree with Rick that this is old ground and counterfactual. At the risk of entering a debating quagmire, I will point to the numbers, the strength, the hydra-headedness, and the resilience of global jihadist terrorism as it exists right now in 2006. Saddam’s intelligence service never developed any such organization. To suppose it could have is unrealistic. And, I’ll note that I am making an argument of the “deltas.” Since March 2003, the global jihadist movement has increased by X, which increase has resulted largely, if not wholly, from the Iraq war. To argue that we would have seen a comparable increase, resulting from a “reinvigorated” Saddamist regime, seems a somewhat arbitrary. He was never able to create such growth of terrorists from 1980 to 2003; there’s no reason to suspect his powers would have multiplied in the past three years.

I would also quibble with Rick’s title “Does confronting terrorism make it worse?” As an absolute rule, or even a general rule, I don’t know. But no one is arguing for a general rule here. The observation is specific. “Our actions in Iraq, between 2003-2006, have increased the recruiting of Islamic extremists.”

James Joyner also comments on the NIE report, and concludes with the policy question:

The question remains, however: What now? If the Iraq War has increased the number of terrorists, does it follow that leaving Iraq in its current state would decrease the number of terrorists? Doubtful.

While Osama and company managed to attact large numbers of troops to fight the atheist Soviets in Afghanistan, they gained far more out of the fact that the Soviets left Afghanistan in defeat. Similarly, it’s quite likely that an American withdrawal from Iraq without accomplishing the barest part of our mission–a reasonably stable, democratic society–would embolden the jihadists. Afghanistan. Lebanon. Somalia. Each of those displays of weakness convinced the jihadists that the infidel was weak and could be defeated. Forcing the Americans to leave Iraq would be a far, far bigger prize.

I take James’ point. Honestly, I am not sure. I can only note that two things are actually happening: America is actually taking casualties and al Qaeda is actually increasing. To perpetuate these trends because of what “might” happen is a dangerous game. A post-American Iraq could take many forms, probably none of them to our liking, but one might suppose al Sadr, al Sistani, and other nationalist Shiites would play at least as large a role as the Sunni jihadists. I’m not trying to predict any particular outcome, merely pointing out that James’ prediction of Iraq as “Jihadist Afghanistan Redux” also iisn’t a certainty.

There are two other glaring facts about Iraq that conservative bloggers tend to avoid. First, in Bush’s words before the war, a democratic and secure Iraq would enhance America’s security. Given that, how can one avoid the opposite: an Iraq degenerating into ever-increasing sectarian violence, “the war that dare not speak its name,” would harm our security. It is hard to imagine that an Iraq riven by hatred, strife, and bloodshed is somehow good for us, especially since we premised our invasion on a whollyy different outcome.

Second, the problem (remember, it’s an operational problem with recruits gaining actual combat experience) is a function of a war drawn out for over three years. If Iraq had been promptly secured, it if had been “cakewalk,” then there would be no war for these jihadists to volunteer for. A successful war, instead of a failed war, wouldn’t have been a problem.

Powder Line resorts to “the evil MSM misrepresented the report.” And adds an update that a White House spokesman also invokes the “not representative” defense. *sigh* It’s a parallel universe they are in, or something. If any reader of mine wants to believe that the jihadist movement is not stronger and more numerous, as a result of our actions in Iraq … I just don’t know what to say. “Go read Powder Line?”

In sum, it is harder and harder to avoid the obvious (dare I call it a “fact?”) — The war in Iraq has made things worse and is making things worse every day. Whether we originally supported the war or not, denial is not a foreign policy.

Comments

  1. tommy wrote:

    Well given that we can’t really know what would have happened otherwise, it’s all pure speculation. But I can’t help but think it’s fairly simple. Prior to the war in Iraq, various groups all had their own reason for why they hated us, now they all have the same one. I don’t know that there is any more hate, just a gathering to a particular reason since it’s convenient. I think the growing participation is a result of our being closer and easier for them to reach in Iraq than if we were elsewhere.

    There’s no way to know any of this, no way to show what would have happened had we not gone to Iraq, and if you have a conclusion you want to push, it’s fairly easy to pick the data you want to show the answer you like.

    Having said all of that, why is it so important that Iraq stay united? It seems to me that it really increases the difficulty if you’re trying to force people to work together when they really don’t want to. It has sort of a Soviet Union feel to it.

    things acted weird when I tried to post, if this double posts, my apologies.

  2. dorkafork wrote:

    Yes, absent the war in Iraq, the “root causes” would still be there, because we are wealthy, because we support Israel, etc.

    …sanctions on Iraq, troops in Saudi Arabia to “contain” Saddam…

    Since March 2003, the global jihadist movement has increased by X, which increase has resulted largely, if not wholly, from the Iraq war.

    The big question is how much is X? I would’ve hope that those in favor of the war would’ve figured “invading an Arab country will be used by al Qaeda for propaganda” would be a no-brainer. But how much is X?

    The old leftist narrative of “Minutemen” fighting for their country kind of goes out the window when you argue that they’ll spread their jihad worldwide. This criticism of the Iraq war can only lend support to staying in Iraq even longer.

    If Iraq is such a magnet, how come the number of foreign fighters in Iraq has been such a tiny fraction of the insurgency? And how much support have terrorists lost by bombing fellow Muslims?

  3. commissar wrote:

    dorkafork,

    The impact goes far beyond “al Qaeda propaganda.” It is in trained recruits, camps, veterans, etc..

    I’m not sure where you’re going with ‘how big is X?’ It’s obviously hard to quantify.

    From my reading, there are both Iraqis and foreign fighters involved in the insurgency. I haven’t read that foreigners are a “tiny fraction.” It was Ware’s link (that you gave me) that described the morphing of a mainly nationalist insurgency into a more jihadist one.

    As for the “minutemen” business, the books I’ve read about Marines fighting in Iraq (by Bing West & Rich Lowry) emphasize over and over how the insurgents just materialize at the sound of fighting, and then melt away into the populace. I think there was even an explicit comparison to “minute men” in one of them. These authors aren’t exactly Mihcael Moore; they are just military guys describing the conditions of combat.

    How much support have they lost? Not that much. That’s the nature of insurgencies. The bad guys disrupt civil order; the legitimate gov’t gets blamed for failing to preserve civil order. Not fair, I agree.

  4. rabit wrote:

    tommy -

    Prior to the war in Iraq, various groups all had their own reason for why they hated us, now they all have the same one. I don’t know that there is any more hate, just a gathering to a particular reason since it’s convenient.

    US Military + Dead Iraqi Civilians = US Hatred.

    This is what experts have said even before the Iraq invasion. It was said in Uncovered: War on Iraq by ‘leftie’ filmmaker Robert Greenwald. Watch it free on Google Video.

    I have NO idea what Dorkafork just said.

  5. bill wrote:

    If we had 200,000 troops in Afghanistan, what would the donks be saying?

    Heck even the Pope reading from a book causes more terrorists. Islamo-Fascists are of that nature, and they would respond wherever the same regardless where the battlefield was — Even if it was in NYCity.

    I file this whole line of reasoning under the bird cage.

    Ask yourself, if we weren’t in Iraq would the terrorists still want to kill us? What about pre-9/11, looks like the terrorists were all genned up then.

  6. tommy wrote:

    US Military + Dead Iraqi Civilians = US Hatred

    True and I don’t dispute that. But I spent some time in the middle east before the war and there was not a lack of hatred then, sometimes it was over israel, a lot of the time I never did understand why, (and for that reason I suspect often they didn’t know why) just that it was. My point is that all of those that hated us for various reasons are now using this one. If for no other reason that it’s convenient, and it resonates well with a lot of people.

  7. commissar wrote:

    I know it’s bad form for the blogger to beat his head against the wall and make derogatory comments like “I’ll type this real slow …”

    But it’s not about inchoate Muslim rage and their endless demonstrations; it’s about actual trained jihadis, gaining experience, skill, and reputation fighting in the field against the Great Satan.

    And .. if we had been successful (more troops, not disbanding the Army, not purging all the Baathists, etc.) then THERE WOULD BE NO BATTLEFIELD FOR THEM, would there?

    The problem isn’t just that we *waged* war’ the problem stems from not winning it as well.

  8. rabit wrote:

    True and I don.t dispute that. But I spent some time in the middle east before the war and there was not a lack of hatred then, sometimes it was over israel, a lot of the time I never did understand why,

    I could think of a few reasons… The first Gulf War? The US sanctions which, according to Wikipedia, may have caused the death of 400,000-800,000 children. Cancellation of Baywatch? I don’t know.

  9. John the Marine wrote:

    Commie,
    Beleive it or not your getting through. You’re absolutely right about: Training, recruiting and infrastructure in general. I’ve said it before. To stop an insurgency you have deny them what they need: An area to operate from, recruits to fill the ranks and materials to resupply and arm with. However, you’re missing something. It is not about the hate or the “Arab Street”. It is about putting enough force in place to denigh the insurgency the three food groups I’ve listed above. Also, since we haven’t, and probably won’t, put enough troops in to accomplish the task, the jihadists will continue to be emboldened. Our self inflicted weakness is perpetuating the problem. I know I’m a broken record, but we best wake and commit more guys.

    Think about it. If we were winning Arabs would not be so quick to sign up.

  10. John the Marine wrote:

    Man your server has got a weird sense of humor.

  11. dorkafork wrote:

    I’m not sure where you’re going with ‘how big is X?’

    Actually, I don’t know where I was going with that myself. I was thinking more of reaction outside of Iraq, and not of the changing nature of the insurgency within Iraq.

    Most estimates I’ve read have given a very low percentage of foreign fighters in the insurgency. (For example. I heard of several different reports from Marine commanders that put their estimates at around 5%.)

  12. commissar wrote:

    My apologies for the comment problems. Not sure why. SK2 is usually pretty good.

    I think I recovered all of them.

  13. Dean Esmay wrote:

    I’d rather see the whole report rather than just the leaked part. Rumor has it that other parts of the report make it clear that if we leave Iraq the problem will only get worse–which of course it would.

    I’m otherwise not sure what’s new here. It’s been obvious for some time that our presence in Iraq was fomenting Jihadi rage. I’ve thought it obvious that was happening for some time. What, this should surprise anyone? That wouldn’t have changed my support for the war going in, and it doesn’t change my continuing support for it now. It’s a long hard slog we’ve been looking at all along, something that’s going to go on longer than this administration.

    That said, if Democrats were doing the smart thing and promising to increase military resources for Iraq and promising not to cut and run, they’d have my vote in November. But if all they’re going to do is whine that the cause is hopeless and give us insane ideas like a set-in-stone deadlnie for withdrawl, I’ll have no choice but to support Republicans again.

  14. Carrick wrote:

    Commisar, I couldn’t agree with you less on this.

    In a very limited context, perhaps it’s true that we’ve energized more people to be al Qaeda. But that ignores the reality of the terrorism threat posed by Iraq itself before the invasion.

    Consider this:

    Saddam had a force of 50,000 terrorist (the Fedayeen Jerusalem) which by Saddam’s own words was recruited to push Israel out of Jerusalem (and by extension out of the “occupied lands”).

    Saddam had created a terrorist training camp par none, Salman Pak, in which he even had a commercial jetliner for his terrorists to train in hijacking techniques on.

    Before the invasion, Iraq sponsored terrorist attacks via “scholarships” to the families of suicide bombers attacking Israelis.

    Saddam not only gave shelter to al Zarqawi, he allowed Zarqawi to rebuild his terrorist organization with in the safety of Iraqs borders. While in Iraq, Zarqawi coordinate the murder of Lawrence Foley, a US diplomat operating in Jordan.

    The question is not whether the invasion of Iraq has created more enemies (there are far fewer alive now than there were before the invasion after all), the question should be a dialectic one: Which would have left us safer, invading Iraq, or allowing Saddam to continue to operate unfettered by international law?

    If you think there was a third alternative, I’d sure like to hear it. Sanctions did not work. UN resolutions did not work. Kissing Saddam’s ass (aka “appeasement”), as some liberals seem to be advocating, would probably not have worked either.

    What is your alternative?

  15. Carrick wrote:

    That said, I’m all for the release of this NIE.

    I’m sure it’s at least as accurate as the 2002 NIE or the 1997 NIE, both of which were extremely reliable of course.

  16. commissar wrote:

    The question is not whether the invasion of Iraq has created more enemies (there are far fewer alive now than there were before the invasion after all),

    No. We kill ‘em by the hundreds, but they grow by the thousands. This is the “bring ‘em on” mistake. If the meat grinder approach would work, I’d be all for it. General Grant knew what he was doing, but that’s not working in Iraq. There are far more now than there were.

    Again, I’m talking in a sense of actual, operational fighters, not inchoate masses of “enraged du jour” Muslims.

    As for the threat of Saddam, you miss the point. For the sake of argument, let’s say Saddam was the worst thing ever, the gravest threat ever, we had to do the war. Bush and Rumsfeld’s handling of the war has been so inept, that among the negative consequences has been a growth in global terror. That’s not just Monday-morning quarterbacking; all the real ****-ups were warned against (not enough troops, disbanding the Iraqi Army, purging the Baathists, ignoring the looting, etc.).

    What we see now in Iraq (and the related growth of global terror) did not “have to be.”

    I’m sure the classic internet debater can dismiss me for “resorting to authority,” but there are plenty of books on this subject. The evidence is quite persuasive, even irrefutable. You outta read them.

  17. frontinus wrote:

    Arguing abstractions. The cat pictures were bad enough.