The New York Times’ 16 words

Armitage Says He Was the Source in C.I.A. Leak - New York Times

The confirmation of Mr. Armitage’s role, long the subject of media speculation, shows that the initial disclosure of Ms. Wilson’s identify did not originate from the White House as part of a concerted political attack, but was divulged by a senior State Department official who was not regarded as a close political ally of Vice President Dick Cheney.

Okay, I guess that’s 58 words. But if anyone is looking for the New York Times to eat crow on this affair, this may have to do. Maybe I will have this framed.

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  1. Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator on 08 Sep 2006 at 3:13 am

    Armitage says he was source in CIA leak

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  1. rabit wrote:

    Robert Novak has already stated on record that Karl Rove was one of his sources. How does this change the apparent fact that a high-level administration official provided confidential information to a reporter?

    Posted 08 Sep 2006 at 4:46 am

  2. John the Marine wrote:

    Robert Novak has already stated on record that Karl Rove was one of his sources.

    If the cat was already out of the bag the information was no longer a secret or confidential for that matter, it had been previously made public.

    Thats why the N.Y. Moonbat Times has admitted (as written above):

    The confirmation of Mr. Armitage’s role, long the subject of media speculation, shows that the initial disclosure of Ms. Wilson’s identify did not originate from the White House

    Sorry, there was no sinister campaign to out desk jockey V. Plame.

    Posted 08 Sep 2006 at 8:25 am

  3. commissar wrote:

    rabit,

    GIVE IT UP, dude. Novak called Rove, remember? And, in response to Novak’s assertion about Valerie Wilson, said, “Yeah, I heard that too.”

    GIVE IT UP!

    Posted 08 Sep 2006 at 9:17 am

  4. rabit wrote:

    John the Marine:

    If the cat was already out of the bag the information was no longer a secret or confidential for that matter, it had been previously made public.

    Hehe, nope. It was revealed privately to Robert Novak, not to the public. Fitzgerald stated her identity was not common knowledge (not even her neighbors knew) until the day Novak’s article was published. This remains fact, and Scooter Libby is still in prison.

    The confirmation of Mr. Armitage’s role, long the subject of media speculation, shows that the initial disclosure of Ms. Wilson’s identify did not originate from the White House

    So is it not fact that Rove and Libby were talking to other reporters like Matt Cooper and Judith Miller, who decided not to publish the identify of Valerie Plame. Who, at the time, was a leading CIA agent involved with determining Iraq’s nuclear weapons potential. The end result being the immediate ending of a career of a CIA agent, someone who’s work could’ve prevented the thousands of American lives spent ridding Iraq of nuclear weapons that weren’t there.

    I don’t see how anyone can defend that.

    commissar:

    rabit,

    GIVE IT UP, dude. Novak called Rove, remember? And, in response to Novak’s assertion about Valerie Wilson, said, “Yeah, I heard that too.”

    GIVE IT UP!

    How does it matter who called who? Rove is by Novak’s account a source. Time Reporter Matthew Cooper said in his Grand Jury testimony that he learned of Plame’s identity from talking to Karl Rove three days before Novak’s article was published.

    Matthew Cooper’s grand gury testimony of a discussion with Rove before Novak’s article was published:

    So did Rove leak Plame’s name to me, or tell me she was covert? No.
    Was it through my conversation with Rove that I learned for the first time that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA and may have been responsible for sending him? Yes.
    Did Rove say that she worked at the “agency” on “WMD”? Yes.

    In early October 2003, NEWSWEEK reported that immediately after Novak’s column appeared in July, Rove called MSNBC “Hardball” host Chris Matthews and told him that Wilson’s wife was “fair game.”

    [source: MSNBC]

    But all this is immaterial to the undisputable fact that Plame’s identity WAS released, and Joseph Wilson’s op-ed piece was proven right.

    Posted 08 Sep 2006 at 1:57 pm

  5. commissar wrote:

    rabit,

    Call the NYTimes and tell them they are wrong.

    Posted 08 Sep 2006 at 2:12 pm

  6. John the Marine wrote:

    Who, at the time, was a leading CIA agent involved with determining Iraq’s nuclear weapons potential. The end result being the immediate ending of a career of a CIA agent, someone who’s work could’ve prevented the thousands of American lives spent ridding Iraq of nuclear weapons that weren’t there.

    Rabit,
    I find the above a tortured argument at best for many reasons. All I can say on this one is that you Liberal types are trying to polish a turd. V. Plame is/was not the warrior of truth and justice fighting the good fight betrayed by Darth Cheney and his evil stooge Libby. Sorry, I just don’t buy it. I mean come on… Even the N.Y. Moonbat Times has thrown in the towell. If they won’t even entertain this fantasy any longer what credible person would?

    Posted 08 Sep 2006 at 2:30 pm

  7. rabit wrote:

    I find the above a tortured argument at best for many reasons.

    Truth is sometime torturous, I admit. But liars deserve no respect. Especially when lies hurt or kill people.

    All I can say on this one is that you Liberal types are trying to polish a turd.

    Us liberal types? So you’re one of those liberal-hatin’ types? Polishing a turd? Isn’t that like what politiblogs are for?

    V. Plame is/was not the warrior of truth and justice fighting the good fight betrayed by Darth Cheney and his evil stooge Libby. Sorry, I just don’t buy it. I mean come on…

    Wow, did I say ‘V. Plame is/was not the warrior of truth and justice fighting the good fight betrayed by Darth Cheney and his evil stooge Libby’? Strange. No, I said “leading CIA agent involved with determining Iraq’s nuclear weapons potential.” Whether you buy it or not doesn’t matter, it’s the truth.

    Does truth happen in your universe?

    Even the N.Y. Moonbat Times has thrown in the towell.

    Really? The same NY “Moonbat” Times that published the discredited scribblings of Judith Miller? And Jayson Blair? They’ve thrown in the towel many times. It’s when newspaper don’t fess up to their mistakes that you should call their ethics into question.

    Do you trust the New York Post or Washington Times?

    If they won’t even entertain this fantasy any longer what credible person would?

    Which “fantasy” are you talking about: That Plame was a CIA agent appointed to researching Iraq’s nuclear capacity or that Rove deliberately retaliated against Joseph Wilson for his op-ed piece?

    Both are true and no amount of liberal-hating on your part is going to change that.

    Posted 08 Sep 2006 at 3:48 pm

  8. John the Marine wrote:

    Do you trust the New York Post or Washington Times?

    No, I’m a WSJ guy myself along with local news papers.

    Us liberal types? So you’re one of those liberal-hatin’ types? Polishing a turd? Isn’t that like what politiblogs are for?

    No, I don’t hate Liberals per say. However, I find their political views and favored policies to be dishonest and foolish. Do, you hate conservatives? or is it possible that you just disagree with them? Spare the persecution BS, it is tedious and gets in the way of adult discussion.

    Politiblogs are for exchanging views and ideas. Commie’s blog is an excellent forum for just that. Why don’t you bop over to D Kos or Moveon and see what kind of diversity they allow. I’ll save you the trip. None. There is no room for real discussion, just preaching to the choir.

    Both are true and no amount of liberal-hating on your part is going to change that.

    The above is pathetic. Grow up. Or cry to your mother, wife, nurse maid… I am not moved by your crybaby rhetoric. Make your case without the hyperbolae, instead of confirming my bias about the Left.

    Posted 08 Sep 2006 at 9:28 pm

  9. rabit wrote:

    No, I’m a WSJ guy myself along with local news papers.

    Ahhh, makes sense.

    No, I don’t hate Liberals per say. However, I find their political views and favored policies to be dishonest and foolish.

    Foolish? Perhaps in some cases. Dishonesty is almost purely a trait from the right.

    Did you not condemn lefties when called Bush intellectually unfit for president? A fact that many conservatives only now have come to realize, privately.

    Did you not condemn lefties when they made a fuss about a fixed election results in Florida? The resulting investigations have exposed a completely broken voting system allowing outright fraud across the country. If it weren’t for those lefties, this broken system would never have been exposed.

    (and didn’t Katherine Harris turn out to be exactly the type of person the lefties said she was, after she springboarded her career into the House of Representatives?)

    Did you attack Michael Moore for portraying a weak president who spends more time on vacation than any president in history (even while the country is at war!) and an administration full of incompetent political cronies, sociopathologically unconcerned about impending disasters until they become a huge political issue? Did Katrina not prove all this was true, that all those ’shrieking crazy moonbats’ were right to be concerned?

    Blah, blah, blah. I could go on….

    But at what point does this emerging pattern become apparent to you. We have been right about everything. Your side? Nothing. If there were, I’d love to hear at least one.

    Why don’t you bop over to D Kos or Moveon and see what kind of diversity they allow. I’ll save you the trip. None. There is no room for real discussion, just preaching to the choir.

    What? Is that news? Actually, DailyKos discussions are sometimes very interesting but the only times I’ve ever debated were on conservative blogs like INDCJournal. And, really, I really don’t give a damn about converting wingnuts to the Church of Moonbattology. I’m more interested in understanding how intelligent people can have a different view of reality based on the same facts.

    Do, you hate conservatives?

    I strongly dislike many conservative politicians. My hate is reserved for people like Osama Bin Laden, but the fact he’s not dead after 5 years while the focus has been on Iraq makes Rumsfeld/Bush/Cheney inch a little closer every day.

    The above is pathetic. Grow up. Or cry to your mother, wife, nurse maid… I am not moved by your crybaby rhetoric.

    Crybaby rhetoric? No, I just pointed two hard, documented, verifiable facts…and I’m called a cry baby. I don’t care what you think of me or liberals in general.

    Make your case without the hyperbolae, instead of confirming my bias about the Left.

    You’re right about this. I haven’t read your blog long enough to know what your opinion of liberals are or not. I merely followed a recent link to here from anotherblog.

    Posted 11 Sep 2006 at 4:02 pm

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