2004 Election - Let’s talk evidence

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. indulged the Left’s favorite conspiracy theory - that Bush stole the 2004 elections, notably in Ohio. While PZ Myers and many other Lefties have accepted Kennedy’s nonsense uncritically, let’s look at Kennedy’s claims and the facts (mostly from Farhad Manjoo in Salon magazine, and also Mother Jones, and OTB). When Democratic sources like Salon, Mother Jones, pollster Mark Blumenthal, blogger tristero, Poor Man’s Institute, and others point out RFK’s gross errors, I would like to see thoughtful Democrat bloggers like Mustang Bobby, Kevin Drum and Roxanne Cooper respond. Chris Bowers at MyDD comes close.

RFK Claim: “In what may be the single most astounding fact from the election, one in every four Ohio citizens who registered to vote in 2004 showed up at the polls only to discover that they were not listed on the rolls, thanks to GOP efforts to stem the unprecedented flood of Democrats eager to cast ballots.”

Fact: What Kennedy doesn’t say, though, is that the same study found no significant difference in the share of Kerry voters and Bush voters who came to the polls and didn’t find their names listed. The Democrats’ report says that 4.2 percent of Kerry voters were forced to cast a “provisional” ballot and that 4.1 percent of Bush voters were made to do the same — a stat that lowers the heat on Kennedy’s claim of “astounding” partisanship.

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RFK Claim: 357,000 voters, “most of them Democratic,” were either prevented from voting or had their votes go uncounted … making Kerry the likely winner.

Fact: Kennedy finds these “missing votes” in the damnedest places, detailed below:

RFK Claim: He counts 30,000 voter registrations that were deleted from voter rolls, in keeping with state law, as “mostly Kerry voters.”

Fact: It’s impossible to know if those were even real people,let alone if they were “mostly kerry voters.”

RFK Claim: 174,000 mostly Kerry voters didn’t vote because they were put off by long lines.

Fact: But the source states it was actually 129,543 voters, and that those votes would have split evenly between Kerry and Bush. And that same source — the Democratic Party’s report once again — notes conclusively: “Despite the problems on Election Day, there is no evidence from our survey that John Kerry won the state of Ohio.” But Kennedy doesn’t tell you that.

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RFK Claim: Kennedy relies on a band of researchers, especially on Ohio’s exit poll, uncritically.

Fact: This research on election fraud has long been called into question by experts, wholly debunked, or have at least been the subject of tremendous debate among experts. Reading Kennedy’s article, you’d never guess that some of his star sources’ claims have fared quite badly when put to people in the field.

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RFK Claim: In rural counties in Ohio, more than 150,000 votes meant for Kerry were somehow switched to Bush. … “One key indicator of fraud is to look at counties where the presidential vote departs radically from other races on the ballot.” Kennedy points to vote results for Ellen Connally, a liberal Democrat who ran for chief justice of the state Supreme Court, who ran almost 20,000 votes ahead of Kerry. To Kennedy, this indicates that a lot of the people who voted for Connally also intended to vote for Kerry, but their votes somehow didn’t show up.

Fact: “Down-ticket” candidates do indeed sometimes win more votes than presidential candidates of their own party in some places — sometimes a lot more. In 2000, Democratic state Supreme Court candidate Alice Resnick won more votes than Al Gore in dozens of counties — in 81 counties, which makes the 12 counties where Supreme Court candidate Connally outperformed Kerry in 2004 look not very suspicious at all. Resnick won 126,000 more votes than Gore in 2000;that is no evidence of Gore “stealing” Ohio that year.

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RFK Claim: GOP Secretary of State Blackwell engineered a “purge” of 300,000 voters in Ohio’s major cities.

Fact: Scrubbing the voting rolls of people who hadn’t voted in prior elections isn’t an arbitrary move. It’s Ohio law, per Ohio code, 3503.19.

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RFK Claim: Republican officials deliberately rigged voting procedures to create the long voting lines seen in Kerry strongholds, and comes up with “more than 174,000 voters” were turned away.

Fact: Long lines may have dissuaded some Ohio voters from voting. But the relevant question is how many voters didn’t get to vote due to long lines, and who is to blame? The Democratic party’s own report, enormous PDF — says “two percent of voters who went to the polls on Election Day decided to leave their polling locations due to the long lines. This resulted in approximately 129,543 lost votes.” The report adds that “these potential voters would have divided evenly between George Bush and John Kerry.” But even if Kerry got two-thirds of those ballots — a huge margin, matching what he got in Ohio’s bluest counties — he’d have won about 86,000 more votes, while Bush would have won 43,000 more. This would have reduced the final 118,000-margin in Ohio to about 75,000 — that is, Bush would still have been comfortably in the lead.

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RFK Claim: Exit polls are always reliable.

Fact: Nonsense. I will refer to the lengthy response on Salon, page 3. And Dem. pollster Blumenthal’s article here.

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RFK Claim: The exit polls showed an insurmountable Kerry lead, one that made a Bush win impossible.

Fact: Those polls showed a Kerry lead that was within the margin of error.

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RFK Claim: He repeats Frreman’s claim that the odds of the polls being as wrong as they were in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida at 1 in 660,000. ”As much as we can say in sound science that something is impossible,” Freeman says, ”it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote count in the three critical battleground states of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error.”

Fact: But nobody argues the errors happened by chance. Everyone in the exit poll debate agrees that there was a systematic cause for the errors in the poll. Freeman, Kennedy, et al., claim that the systematic cause was fraud, while Mitofsky and many in the polling community claim the cause was a problem with the poll. So Freeman’s argument that it would take preposterous odds to produce a random sampling error is a straw-man assertion.

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RFK Claim: The exit pollsters can’t explain how their poll failed.

Fact: In January 2005, Mitofsky released a 77-page report detailing how his poll performed on Election Day. You can read the PDF here. It is not stingy about possible methodological flaws in the survey.

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RFK Claim:“Nearly half of the 6 million American voters living abroad(3) never received their ballots — or received them too late to vote.”

Fact: Only 14% receved them too late.

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Note: I have pushed “fair use” probably beyond the breaking point here. If Salon asks, I’ll take down or edit this post to their satisfaction.

Those who want actual expert opinions on the 2004 elections what changes are needed should read the final report of The National Research Commission on Elections and Voting.

Trackbacks & Pings

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  2. Small Town Veteran on 04 Jun 2006 at 8:54 pm

    Ohio was stolen! Not….

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Comments

  1. Heartless Libertarian wrote:

    How many of the ones who received their ballots too late or not at all were military personnel serving overseas?

    I know were had a lot of those here in WA-most likely more than enough to put Dino Rossi in the governor’s mansion.

  2. BloodSpite wrote:

    Another sad fact is, if you have a long line at a polling area……and you pick up and leave….mein gott!!! Its your vote your throwing away! Not some GOP funded right wing consipiracy that made you say “Aww hell this line is too long. I’m going home to get out of the cold/wind/rain/boring/outdoors”

  3. Roxanne wrote:

    Just for you I read that RFK Jr. article and here’s my quick take because I’m swamped at work:

    Cheating has been going on in elections since …like… forever.
    I would not be shocked if Bush and his minions rigged ballot machines and conducted other nefarious activities in Ohio and other states in order to maintain power. Still horrified, but not shocked.
    RFKs article does not make the Ohio case very effectively.

    Now don’t ask me anything else for three weeks. ;-) I have to get my shin bones polished and my cuticles waxed as I’m going to meet Bill Clinton next week.

  4. Roxanne wrote:

    Like the new blog design BTW.

  5. commissar wrote:

    Thanks for the comment, Rox. Good luck with the cuticles.

  6. Mustang Bobby wrote:

    Commissar: There’s been a lot of back and forth about the Kennedy article by folks that are lucid (as opposed to the shrill ones) that are taking both sides.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that I should have been a tad more skeptical in my reading of the articles — all of them. Having been burned recently on the Truthout/Rove is indicted story and the Iranian Jewish badging one, I realize that a healthy skepticism goes a long way.

    One thing that swayed me was that RFK Jr’s c.v. convinced me that he wasn’t the TFH type; he’s got too much at stake to go out on a limb. (Full disclosure: I’ve got family connections with the Kennedys.) I hope that he hasn’t screwed the pooch over this. It’s not worth it.

  7. Mustang Bobby wrote:

    PS: I too like the new look. Who’s your decorator?

  8. commissar wrote:

    Bobby,

    RFK most definitely is a Tin Foil Hat type. He has espoused a wacky conspiratorial view on mercury and autism. My friend Orac has covered this at length.

    I did not mention this in the post because I didnt want to get into an ad hominem attack on RFK, as a distraction. But if you think RFK has a track record as a factual guy, check out Orac\\\’s posts, or the whole issue of mercury & autism.

    Thanks for the response.

  9. Mustang Bobby wrote:

    Hmm. Another “skating-too-close” citation; my boss’s son is autistic and she’s researching the mercury connection on her own. I’ll check it out — and not tell her.

    Like I said, a healthy skepticism is a good thing about everything you read now.

  10. William Teach wrote:

    No matter what you write, no matter what facts you cite, Commissar, the Left will never, ever believe that Bush did not steal 2004. It is an article of faith with them.

    Cause otherwise, they would have to face the facts that what few ideas and plans they have are unpopular outside of Liberal World. Abortion on demand, high taxes, the Nanny State, handing our security over to the UN, etc, just do not play well with the average American. The average American also does not care to be thought of, and called, an idiot by the so called high brows in the Democratic party.

  11. William Teach wrote:

    PS: I am rather disappointed in Hannity for having the hypocrite on his show tonight.

  12. The Unabrewer wrote:

    Rox: I met Bill Clinton in a gas station restroom once.

    I probably shouldn’t have told that.