No Timber, Plenty Crooked

From Chris Bertram at Crooked Timber:

Following the publication of a BBC list of the 10 worst Britons of all time , there’s now a meme going round listing nominations for the 10 worst Americans of all time . The propensity of “conservative” blog commenters to include Jane Fonda, MLK, or Paul Robeson on their lists is somewhat worrying …

The propensity of conservative blog commenters to include Martin Luther King” .. I get it. Since we are conservatives, it follows that we are racist Klansmen.

“Propensity” is an interesting word. It does not strictly speak to “the percentage of a group that does something,” but if a group has a “propensity to do X,” one would conclude that a whole lot of them did X. “Propensity” is defined as “an innate inclination; a tendency,” as in the following sentence, “All those wingnuts, being racist, have an innate inclination to call MLK one of the Ten Worst Americans, those good-for-nothing, homophobic, neocon, illiterate, Red State, troglodytic, creationist, wingnut, misogynist, prejudiced, f*ckers.” Thanks, Chris.

Let’s see. The meme started/is hosted by All Things Beautiful. I count 47 (mostly conservative) blogs participating, plus 9 more lists in the comments. Okay, are you ready for the number of people who named MLK to their list? … Exactly two. One commenter, unknown to me. One blogger. I don’t suppose Chris Bertram bothered to look at the blogger in question. Sorry, Chris, he is a flaming liberal, and if you bothered to read his list, you would “get it.”The blogger is also a proud member of “Big Brass Alliance” and “censurebush.org.” And take a look at his blogroll and other posts. By Chris Bertram’s so-called standards, I can say that “Liberal bloggers have a propensity to name MLK as one of the Ten Worst Americans.”

Update: Comments at Crooked Timber note that the leftie blog post mentioning MLK came after Bertram’s post. Okay. So he based his “worrying conservative propensity” phrase on ONE comment. Unless of course that commenter was also a Leftie trying to parody conservatives.

You want “propensity?” How about this? “Chris Bertram has a propensity to grossly distort his opponents’ statements to serve his divisive political agenda. He has a propensity to lie and/or to be inexcusably lazy when flinging out his baseless charges.” And, yes, that is “somewhat worrying.”

I only have one nomination for the Ten Worst Americans: Chris Bertram, representing all the lies and gross distortions of the Moonbat-o-sphere.

Comments

  1. Michael the Thumper wrote:

    “Chris Bertram has a propensity to grossly distort his opponents’ statements to serve his divisive political agenda. He has a propensity to lie and/or to be inexcusably lazy when flinging out his baseless charges.” And, yes, that is “somewhat worrying.”

    Aw, c’mon Commissar. That’s weak ****. I’ve seen you when your face gets red and your neck veins start bulging.

    How about:

    Chris Bertram is a limp-dick little poseur who has a propensity for writing articles that expose his mental retardation, and a simlar propensity for sexually abusing small animals, including his cat named Poochie.

  2. commissar wrote:

    Should I call him a **** stain?

  3. Michael the Thumper wrote:

    Maybe something more poetic, like “a skidmark on the shorts of life.”

  4. Preston Taylor Holmes wrote:

    I’d call him a heaping, steaming pile of fecal matter who routinely blows trainloads of chimp. But I’m not right.

  5. Tim Worstall wrote:

    Err, Chris Bertram is English.

  6. commissar wrote:

    Tim,

    Fine. He can be an “Honorary” worst American.

  7. Erika wrote:

    Went to his site and asked him to clarify his comment, since none of the lists I saw had MLK. Comment was being checked and then was deleted, so I guess Chris does not care to actually answer to his disregard for facts.

  8. Orion wrote:

    In Chris’s case, just calling him “American” would probably be insulting enough.

  9. Kristjan Wager wrote:

    Maybe they didn’t mention MLK as often as Bertram makes it sound - but Clinton has been mentioned a lot in the lists I’ve seen, as have Carter.

    Ok, maybe people don’t like them, but among the 10 worst Americans? Come on.

  10. Matt Moore wrote:

    Yes, Kristjan, putting Clinton and Carter on the list is JUST THE SAME as putting MLK on it.

  11. Kristjan Wager wrote:

    Did I say that Matt?

  12. Grayson wrote:

    Kristjan, I can live with the Carter remark. The guy might have fuzzy intentions, and there are certainly people in America whose intentions are worse, but consider the outcome of Carter’s various and stupid actions and there’s a case to be made.

    Yes, Carter isn’t directly responsible for the killing and eating 30-some-odd young men, but his political idiocy prolonged the Cold War, which led to the deaths of tens of thousands of people, and he helped the Shah get overthrown, leading to the tyrrany of Iran and greatly assisting the rise of radical Islam.

    And actually, given Clinton’s enabling of China’s nuclear weapons development, you could argue that Clinton is also one of the worst. Consider the damage that Clinton did with his dealings with Red China. Now, name me 10 other Americans whose crass actions have jeopardized more American lives than getting Red China Loral Aerospace’s guidance missle technology and then selling Red China the supercomputers to land the stuff over Los Angeles.

    Howard Dean might be a greater fool, and Hillary might be more evil (I believe she’s the Biblical ***** of Babylon, but that’s just me), but she hasn’t actually DONE much of anything to destroy us all. Yet. (But give her credit: she’s working on it.)

  13. Kristjan Wager wrote:

    Grayson, you live in a different reality than I do.

    But if we are talking about past actions coming back to haunt the US - how about the politicians that supported Saddam Hussein or Bin Ladin in the past? (Rumsfelt et al)
    BTW how did the prolonging of the cold war by Carter lead to the death of tens of thousands of people? It’s called the cold war for a reason.

    I don’t argue that they belong on the list, but they certainly are better candidates than Clinton or Carter.

  14. Chief RZ wrote:

    I will add Noam Chomsky, the failed linguist who is hiding at MIT as a political hack. He actually said, and was published in France in La Vieille Taupe that the NAZI Holocaust was ‘a complete fabrication’ !

  15. commissar wrote:

    I’m happy to have the comment thread go where it will, but Kristjan, the “point” of my post was that Bertram’s implied racism of Conservatives (MLK being an iconic Ameican figure, honored by his own federal holiday) was deliberately dishonest.

  16. Kristjan Wager wrote:

    I don’t know if it was deliberately dishonest, or if it was just wrong. Maybe Bertram had seen it somewhere we haven’t seen, and errorously thought it was a big enough sample to generalize from. Obviously he was wrong, and I won’t defend that, but we can’t know if it was deliberately dishonest.

  17. commissar wrote:

    Kristjan,

    “Maybe Bertram … we cant know if he was deliberatley dishonest.”

    Come now, my friend. You sound like a Creationist explaining why God *might* have made such an inelegant panda’s thumb. :)

  18. Michael The Thumper wrote:

    Come now, my friend. You sound like a Creationist explaining why God *might* have made such an inelegant panda’s thumb.

    No matter what the subject, you’ve just GOT to drag in us Creationists. Sooooo predictable.

    *googling “panda & thumb & evolution”*

  19. commissar wrote:

    Michael,

    You dont know about the Panda’s Thumb?!?! There is no bigger popular evolutionary icon than the Panda’s Thumb, even bigger than a certain bunny of a certain age.

    The Panda’s Thumb is an allegorical revelation handed down to us directly by St. Stephen of Cambridge, although certain scholars disagree as to whether the thumb evolved “from” or “and from” the carpal bone. This language remains a “bone” of contention between the Eastern and Western Evolutionary Patriarchates.